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10 Unpopular Fandom Opinions (I think)

1) Logan/Veronica is not OTP to me. I'm not like opposed to the pairing but I don't think it's that amazing and thanks to fandom I would not be sad if it dissapeared from the face of the earth.

2) I don't generally like friendship pairings. This doesn't mean that I don't like pairing anyone who are friends together but the whole "oh look we are such great friends it must be love" thing bores me to death. So yes this includes: Harry/Ron, Harry/Hermione, Sirius/Remus, Mal/Zoe, Mal/Kaylee, Veronica/Wallace, Izzie/George etc.

3) I don't care about who Harry OR Draco is paired with. Neither character is really that fascinating or attractive to me. Also... I don't care about Regulus Black.

4)Izzie/Denny made me want to puke all over myself. Seriously.

5) Slash and Het really aren't fundementally different. Get over yourselves on both sides.

6) I liked Duncan. I didn't like a lot of the writer's choices about what to do with Duncan in season 2, but I think he was an interesting character with a lot of potential.

7) I enjoy Buffy/Angel and Buffy/Spike differently but with no particular preference for one over the other.

8) Ron is the king of straight people. Straight as an arrow and what not.

9) Protagonists and villians usually are less intersting to me than side characters.

10) I don't like Mal/River or Jayne/River.

Date: 2006-08-25 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Jayne/Anyone Any girl makes me kinda sick. It's just weird.

Date: 2006-08-25 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottledglory.livejournal.com
like seriously, i have yet to see anyonewrite anyone/river... i mean wtf. jayne/river is flippin scary people....

Date: 2006-08-25 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
I actually like Jayne/Kaylee, although mostly I'm a sucker for when it's unrequited.

Date: 2006-08-25 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-helix.livejournal.com
Aw, you know I'm down with you on #1, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7 and #10. I'm a sad, sad sucker for #2 (though V/W is more like icky-incest to me), I like superstraight!Ron being shocked by gay feelings, and I am utterly queer for heroes. But other than that, we're As One. *g*

Date: 2006-08-25 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Ppeople write it a lot... and I am just like "Why?"

I mean I know why. They are the two not paired up canonically. But that doesn't make it work for me.

River only belongs with her brother... duh!

Date: 2006-08-25 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
I suppose unreq would be ok. *is stubborn*

Date: 2006-08-25 11:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-08-25 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
See with #2 I can see it work and enjoy it if it's done in certain ways. I have a sort of soft spot for grownup Harry/Hermione with good buildup and rationale and realism even. It's just so commonly I find it a bad logical fallacy.

Ron being straight probably wouldn't be a big fixation for me if it were not for the fandom's insistance on everyone being gay. You've heard me and Rachel's rendition of "Weasley is our King" right?

Date: 2006-08-25 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Lol. I just enjoy how the subtext for Jayne having a thing for Kaylee is very clearly present in the show.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
Ok, I'll totally give you that.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] sophia_helix is supposed to be writing me River/Kaylee fic in which Simon has died and they help eachother though grieving. Probably she will never write it... but I want it.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aphrodite-mine.livejournal.com
*wibbles* Me want toos! hell, Simon doesn't even need to be dead. K/R FOREVER!!!

Date: 2006-08-25 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
The ships i like in Firefly are all their text or subtext.

It's weird cause I'm usually such a rarepairs person.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caitiedidit.livejournal.com
1. Word! (This is why I friended you, because I needed more VM friends who weren't all about Logan and Veronica, because yawn.)

4. I don't think that's an unpoular opinion! I mean, I liked Denny a lot and I liked Izzie/Denny as a plot device, but I'm one of the few on my f'list.

6. Word again. There is absolutely nothing boring about S1 Duncan. There are a lot of boring things about S2 Duncan/Veronica and Lilly 2.0, but people need to lay off Duncan. It's not his fault the middle of S2 sucked.

7. Which makes you the only person in the world, you know that don't you? Hee.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottledglory.livejournal.com
i have read very very i think only one mal river fic that actually worked on some level. but i like jayne with kaylee due to the fact that they're both hick to a poin and bring out the best in eachother. kaylee/simon....couple from hell.... gah i hate them....

Date: 2006-08-25 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caitiedidit.livejournal.com
You've heard me and Rachel's rendition of "Weasley is our King" right?

Maybe she has, but I sure haven't.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
See I just really liked the idea of that bringing them together . I'm a sucker for pairings where the characters are connected through a lost loved one I've realized recently. Logan/Weevil for instance.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
On my flist 1 is probably less uncommon than just about any other corner of the fandom... because when I do friending frenzies that's pretty much my main criterea with VM friending.

4 is sort of borderline... I should probably have put my love for Callie instead.

Season 1 Duncan with his bleacher jumping and his sexually overtoned conversations with his dead sister and his love for Veronica in spite of thinking she was his sister... yeah he was anything but boring.

It's okay. I'm used to being different.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
like i get the whole mal/river thing withh them being connected through serenity and all but it's just not appealing to me.


Yes, Jayne and Kaylee are all uncouth and plainspoken and honest about their sexuality and they obviously genuinly care about eachother and enjoy eachother's company and such.

Honestly I like Kaylee/Simon (yes I like Kaylee/Simon and Simon/River and Kaylee/Jayne). It's cute and enjoyable and the sex scene at the end of Serenity was GAH.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
I'm not sure i remember the exact wording but it went something like this:

weasley is our king
He never does a single gay thing
That's why all the heteros sing
weasley is our king

Date: 2006-08-25 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottledglory.livejournal.com
that wasn't no sex scene, that was a fan girl's dream cause sean maher was shirtless and kaylee was like... i cannot resist and then he tranks her and molests river who is hiding in the vents.... lmao

Date: 2006-08-25 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
haha... I love that fact that River was watching.

The scene just had the perfect feel about it with the lighting and everything.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottledglory.livejournal.com
and sean maher was insanely buff, i thought i had died....but i'm an adam baldwin fan and i die everytime i watch him take his shirt off.... i cannot wait for daybreak this fall

Date: 2006-08-25 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Indeed... I did not expect him to be that buff at all. And he was buff in just the perfect way because it was incredibly hot to me and I'm not a big muscle person. Gah I need to go home and just watch that scene about 5 times... or mayve just leave it on pause.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-bo-banna.livejournal.com
awesome, i'm with you on pretty much everything, but especially 2, 7, & 9.
i mean, i do love logan/veronica, but it's not actually one of my favorite ships.
and i do not understand why everyone went so gaga over izzie/denny either. they didn't exactly make me want to puke, but they did make me cringe and roll my eyes a lot.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
This is why every time I accidentally read your comment on a friending frenzy I want to friend you until I realize that you're you and we are already friended.

I really think you'd have to be a 12 year old to like Denny/Izzie.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottledglory.livejournal.com
i know! gah, i kind of did that where you look at a guy and your head kind of just...tilts when you look at them in awe.... ::drool::

Date: 2006-08-25 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
And now whenever I watch scenes in which his shirt is not off I can't get rid of the knowledge that he looks like that UNDER the shirt.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-bo-banna.livejournal.com
aww that's sweet.

Date: 2006-08-25 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Proof that friending frenzies do actually work occasionally.

Date: 2006-08-26 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottledglory.livejournal.com
i know! ::drools more still:: gah firefly how you consume me!!!

Date: 2006-08-26 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
now i just want to watch it it more and maybe write/read porn

Date: 2006-08-26 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottledglory.livejournal.com
yus! gah i wanna read some smut! and o yea me... don't EVEN get me into HP fandom cause i'm so fricken picky

Date: 2006-08-26 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] areadyheart.livejournal.com
1) the first thing i ever saw of VM was The Kiss when r.k. uploaded it to share with the flist, and their awkwardness and logan's adorableness is what made me finally decide to watch the show. but i'm sure i would've fallen in love even if that hadn't been the case. :)

2) for the most part i agree. i read a harry/hermione fic that i liked once, but obviously it's not my preference.

3) heh, don't think i need to comment here. :P

5) in a lot of ways i completely agree, but i think people can be put off by sexual details in a gender pairing they don't find appealing.

6) i never liked duncan much, but i think a lot of that goes back to #1. plus the actor was unimpressive compared to the rest of the main cast.

8) yeah, i agree with that.

9) i think the reason i always get more interested in the main characters is my lack of imagination when reading. i have a lot of trouble picturing things, so my focus is often on that rather than absorbing the background characters and activities. it really bothers me, actually. :\

Date: 2006-08-26 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shakanaman.livejournal.com
very much with you on the draco/harry thing... seriously could not care less about either.
same goes for sirius/remus, which i firmly believe is NOT OTP IN THE LEAST and find annoying.

Ron is totally straight.

slash or het, doesn't really matter. what matters is the relationship that the characters have... or not.
anyway.

Date: 2006-08-26 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-blazes.livejournal.com
Whee! *huggleglomps you*

Given, I don't watch VM, so I got nothin' for any of that, and I'm a pretty hardcore straight girl, and I looooooove the villains with a burning passion. *drools over Lord Voldemort*

But just about everything else... Whee! *loves*

Date: 2006-08-26 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hobviously.livejournal.com
If only there was something on the list that we hadn't discussed exhaustively that I could comment to!

Date: 2006-08-27 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
don't EVEN get me into HP fandom cause i'm so fricken picky

Now I'm curious

Date: 2006-08-27 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
5) Okay so that's what I really don't get. Fandom is dominated by women and yet so full of "ewww girl parts". Like I can get the appeal of slash to a straight/bi woman but I do not get the disgust with het... It makes no sense and seems like just total self hate and neurosis.

Date: 2006-08-27 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Exactly.


Let's all get back to writing Minerva/Tom

Date: 2006-08-27 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
I actually do like villians more than heroes but generally I like the supporting characters like Bellatrix, McGonagall, and Snape on either side rather than Harry or Voldemort (although Tom Riddle's a whole different story).

The Hero is consistantly the least intersting character to me.

I love how these unpopular opinion things are causing squee and bonding because we all pick flists with opinons similar ot ours.

Date: 2006-08-27 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
that's the problem with knowing me so much better than everyone else I guess.

Date: 2006-08-28 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
lmao would you like a list?

Date: 2006-08-28 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Yes. I would.

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